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	<title>Comments on: Eagles Make Questionable Move</title>
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		<title>By: parlayitall</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1511</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does it really make sense to throw money at a guy to get over the salary floor?  Couldn&#039;t we have throw that money somewhere else.  Personally, I thought we could have used another linebacker.  I like Boley that went from the Falcons to the Giants.  Wouldn&#039;t it have made more sense to spend the money on a guy like that than just giving it away?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it really make sense to throw money at a guy to get over the salary floor?  Couldn&#8217;t we have throw that money somewhere else.  Personally, I thought we could have used another linebacker.  I like Boley that went from the Falcons to the Giants.  Wouldn&#8217;t it have made more sense to spend the money on a guy like that than just giving it away?</p>
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		<title>By: the vet</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1510</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is from Mike Florio at PFT:

&quot;Not bad for a guy who possibly would have been traded or cut if the Eagles hadn’t pulled a stunning late-season reversal, ultimately coming within a game of a Super Bowl berth.

But the move continues to make no sense to us.  Why not add another non-guaranteed year at $10 million or more?  It would have given the Eagles the option to keep him beyond 2010, if the Eagles had so elected.

Instead, the Eagles face losing McNabb in 2011 for no compensation, unless they use the franchise tag to keep him.  If the franchise tag even exists come 2011.

There’s also a belief that one of the motivations of the McNabb deal was to help the Eagles comply with the 2009 salary floor.  Thanks to years of carrying over excess cap space, the Eagles have (at last look) more than $30 million in cap space.

Either way, we can’t think of a similar situation from past NFL offseasons.  Players typically don’t get more money without having to give up, at a minimum, another season of service.&quot;

The fact of the matter is he got money for nothing.  It&#039;s not only unprecedented...it&#039;s flat out stupid.  And I love McNabb!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is from Mike Florio at PFT:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not bad for a guy who possibly would have been traded or cut if the Eagles hadn’t pulled a stunning late-season reversal, ultimately coming within a game of a Super Bowl berth.</p>
<p>But the move continues to make no sense to us.  Why not add another non-guaranteed year at $10 million or more?  It would have given the Eagles the option to keep him beyond 2010, if the Eagles had so elected.</p>
<p>Instead, the Eagles face losing McNabb in 2011 for no compensation, unless they use the franchise tag to keep him.  If the franchise tag even exists come 2011.</p>
<p>There’s also a belief that one of the motivations of the McNabb deal was to help the Eagles comply with the 2009 salary floor.  Thanks to years of carrying over excess cap space, the Eagles have (at last look) more than $30 million in cap space.</p>
<p>Either way, we can’t think of a similar situation from past NFL offseasons.  Players typically don’t get more money without having to give up, at a minimum, another season of service.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is he got money for nothing.  It&#8217;s not only unprecedented&#8230;it&#8217;s flat out stupid.  And I love McNabb!</p>
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		<title>By: Kulp</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1509</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well according to Derrick Gunn, every dime is guaranteed.  As to whether or not teams are allowed to guarantee contracts, I can&#039;t see a reason why they wouldn&#039;t be able to, but if that is the case for some reason, the simple way around it is to convert his base salary into bonuses.  Problem solved.

As for up-front money, you&#039;re not going to get a lot of that on just a one or two year extension, which is probably why he received the raise.  The longer the deal, the bigger the bonuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well according to Derrick Gunn, every dime is guaranteed.  As to whether or not teams are allowed to guarantee contracts, I can&#8217;t see a reason why they wouldn&#8217;t be able to, but if that is the case for some reason, the simple way around it is to convert his base salary into bonuses.  Problem solved.</p>
<p>As for up-front money, you&#8217;re not going to get a lot of that on just a one or two year extension, which is probably why he received the raise.  The longer the deal, the bigger the bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael DeLuca</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael DeLuca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless I&#039;m mistaken, NFL teams cannot actually guarantee a players salary.  Rather the only guaranteed money would be in the form of bonuses.

As for why McNabb would want to add the new years, the up front money would be the reason.  I&#039;ve always been told &quot;you don&#039;t get something for nothing.&quot;  In this case, it appears McNabb did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, NFL teams cannot actually guarantee a players salary.  Rather the only guaranteed money would be in the form of bonuses.</p>
<p>As for why McNabb would want to add the new years, the up front money would be the reason.  I&#8217;ve always been told &#8220;you don&#8217;t get something for nothing.&#8221;  In this case, it appears McNabb did.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulp</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kulp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well there were probably multiple ways to go about it, but as doc says, why would Donovan only want to add one or two years?  That means he wouldn&#039;t become a free agent until he was 35 or 36, and by then the questions about his age and injury history will really have teams on alert.  He knows what they did basically forces the Eagles to make a move next year, either give him the long term deal or trade him, and either way seems to benefit him.

Also, I think it&#039;s becoming a little misleading to say NFL contracts aren&#039;t guaranteed when so much of negotiations are now based upon guaranteed money.  That was precisely what was at stake in this new deal.  It wouldn&#039;t benefit Donovan at all to add one or two years that were just like the years he reworked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there were probably multiple ways to go about it, but as doc says, why would Donovan only want to add one or two years?  That means he wouldn&#8217;t become a free agent until he was 35 or 36, and by then the questions about his age and injury history will really have teams on alert.  He knows what they did basically forces the Eagles to make a move next year, either give him the long term deal or trade him, and either way seems to benefit him.</p>
<p>Also, I think it&#8217;s becoming a little misleading to say NFL contracts aren&#8217;t guaranteed when so much of negotiations are now based upon guaranteed money.  That was precisely what was at stake in this new deal.  It wouldn&#8217;t benefit Donovan at all to add one or two years that were just like the years he reworked.</p>
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		<title>By: doc</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1506</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both sides would have had to agree on that though. I believe that McNabb only wanted to restructure, if he wanted to add years it was going to be more than 1 or 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides would have had to agree on that though. I believe that McNabb only wanted to restructure, if he wanted to add years it was going to be more than 1 or 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael DeLuca</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael DeLuca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, well thought out.  I agree with a lot of what you&#039;re saying. 

I have to disagree, however, when it comes to extending Mcnabb.  Since contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL, we could have essentially given him the same guaranteed bump that we just gave him but add a year or two to the deal at say $11 million.  If come 2011 we decide he&#039;s worth that $11 million, then we keep him on board.  If not, we trade or dump him, which would have no consequence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, well thought out.  I agree with a lot of what you&#8217;re saying. </p>
<p>I have to disagree, however, when it comes to extending Mcnabb.  Since contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL, we could have essentially given him the same guaranteed bump that we just gave him but add a year or two to the deal at say $11 million.  If come 2011 we decide he&#8217;s worth that $11 million, then we keep him on board.  If not, we trade or dump him, which would have no consequence.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulp</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kulp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I didn&#039;t really answer the first question, but you don&#039;t extend now for two reasons: one, the CBA is going to change the landscape of the NFL, and no one is sure exactly how.  There are some serious questions as to what the salary cap will be, if any, and that obviously influences negotiations.

Second, you still have Kolb on the bench.  What if you extend McNabb now, Kolb relieves him after an injury, and he sets the world on fire?  Obviously you would want to keep the younger guy in that situation, but now you&#039;re burdened with attempting to move a McNabb contract that another team might view as unfavorable coming off of some sort of serious injury.

Basically, this just allows the Eagles to keep their options open for one more year while also doing the right thing by McNabb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I didn&#8217;t really answer the first question, but you don&#8217;t extend now for two reasons: one, the CBA is going to change the landscape of the NFL, and no one is sure exactly how.  There are some serious questions as to what the salary cap will be, if any, and that obviously influences negotiations.</p>
<p>Second, you still have Kolb on the bench.  What if you extend McNabb now, Kolb relieves him after an injury, and he sets the world on fire?  Obviously you would want to keep the younger guy in that situation, but now you&#8217;re burdened with attempting to move a McNabb contract that another team might view as unfavorable coming off of some sort of serious injury.</p>
<p>Basically, this just allows the Eagles to keep their options open for one more year while also doing the right thing by McNabb.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulp</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1503</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Michael

It all depends.  What happens next is based on what happens this season.  If Donovan stays healthy and continues to play at a high level, yes they&#039;ll certainly have to extend him sometime next year.  You don&#039;t run the risk of your franchise quarterback becoming a free agent.

I don&#039;t really look at the money aspect of this new deal as much as the fact that they guaranteed both years.  Yes, he got a raise, but $5 million is kind of a joke when you think about it.  It&#039;s a very minor salary bump for a quarterback.  You just have to look at this as Donovan saying, &quot;Gee guys, if I get hurt and you cut me, no one is going to sign me for $10 mil.&quot;  Now if he gets hurt and the team decides to move on, they have to trade him and not only will he still make that money, but he&#039;ll probably be able to parlay that into another big contract.

And it benefits the Eagles in trade talks as well.  If they were trying to pawn off an injured player who was replaced and could be cut at any moment, teams might try to wait for McNabb to hit the market.  With the money guaranteed, it makes absolutely no sense to cut him, which forces interested teams to make competing offers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael</p>
<p>It all depends.  What happens next is based on what happens this season.  If Donovan stays healthy and continues to play at a high level, yes they&#8217;ll certainly have to extend him sometime next year.  You don&#8217;t run the risk of your franchise quarterback becoming a free agent.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really look at the money aspect of this new deal as much as the fact that they guaranteed both years.  Yes, he got a raise, but $5 million is kind of a joke when you think about it.  It&#8217;s a very minor salary bump for a quarterback.  You just have to look at this as Donovan saying, &#8220;Gee guys, if I get hurt and you cut me, no one is going to sign me for $10 mil.&#8221;  Now if he gets hurt and the team decides to move on, they have to trade him and not only will he still make that money, but he&#8217;ll probably be able to parlay that into another big contract.</p>
<p>And it benefits the Eagles in trade talks as well.  If they were trying to pawn off an injured player who was replaced and could be cut at any moment, teams might try to wait for McNabb to hit the market.  With the money guaranteed, it makes absolutely no sense to cut him, which forces interested teams to make competing offers.</p>
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		<title>By: notaneaglesfan</title>
		<link>http://pcpsports.com/2009/06/12/3417/#comment-1502</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Birds brass are a bunch of clueless wimps.  The should have manned up a long time ago when #5 started whining publicly about his benching, which was caused only by his own poor play.  It&#039;s a shame that Kolb played terribly for that second half because it just scared the team into showering the crybaby with cash.

BTW, GO GIANTS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Birds brass are a bunch of clueless wimps.  The should have manned up a long time ago when #5 started whining publicly about his benching, which was caused only by his own poor play.  It&#8217;s a shame that Kolb played terribly for that second half because it just scared the team into showering the crybaby with cash.</p>
<p>BTW, GO GIANTS</p>
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